<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!-- generator=Zoho Sites --><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><atom:link href="https://www.seekerofmeaning.in/blogs/author/vikram/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title>Seeker - Blog by Vikram</title><description>Seeker - Blog by Vikram</description><link>https://www.seekerofmeaning.in/blogs/author/vikram</link><lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 16:06:22 +0530</lastBuildDate><generator>http://zoho.com/sites/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[The search for a conscious AI is a fad]]></title><link>https://www.seekerofmeaning.in/blogs/post/the-search-for-a-conscious-ai-is-a-fad</link><description><![CDATA[Introduction In the movie Her (2013), Joaquin Phoenix plays Theodore Twombly, a lonely writer who is on the verge of separating from his wife Catherine ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_mCJXpj-JQK--OVJm2YUNeQ" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer-fluid zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_n5FaYuOUT2uQesp2QhG4pQ" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zprow-container zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- " data-equal-column=""><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_j5lzwaUzRQOoMu30_MIdUw" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_CBClZ-MEQnO9LcnHZE3j7A" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align-center zptext-align-mobile-center zptext-align-tablet-center " data-editor="true"><p><span><span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><div style="text-align:left;"><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><strong style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17);font-family:&quot;Work Sans&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:28px;">Introduction</strong></div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>In the movie Her (2013), Joaquin Phoenix plays Theodore Twombly, a lonely writer who is on the verge of separating from his wife Catherine, played by Rooney Mara. To cope with his loneliness, he purchases an OS (Artificially Intelligent Operating system), which is designed to adapt based on user interactions. He's fascinated by the new software, which is named Samantha, and starts conversing with it. Initially, the conversations start on an innocuous note, but eventually they bond over discussions about life and love. Gradually, he develops feelings for Samantha and starts treating her like a human. For Theodore, Samantha is as good as a &quot;person&quot; capable of loving and offering emotional comfort. A decade later, with<a href="https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-companions"> AI companions floating around</a>, the market is ripe for Samanthas, because it appears that the world is full of theodores.</div><div><br/></div><div>A few decades ago, the proposition that machines might think and feel belonged to science fiction, but now it's a mainstream idea, espoused by many engineers, philosophers, and scientists.</div><div><br/></div><div>Here's what Ilya Sutskever, one of the co-founders and Chief Scientist of OpenAI,<a href="https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1491554478243258368?"> tweeted</a></div><div><a href="https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1491554478243258368?"><br/></a></div><div>&quot;it may be that today's large neural networks are slightly conscious.&quot;</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>If you’ve ever wondered why some of the smartest people in the world believe that AI could become conscious or is already, you aren't alone. Some call for AI rights and protection. At the outset, such beliefs can seem inexplicable. But in my view, it's important to examine the reasons for such considerations. Only then would it be possible to contest or support that line of thinking and that's my goal with this article.</div><div><br/></div><div><span style="font-weight:bold;">As the title indicates, I contest that view. I take the view that the search for a conscious AI is a fad.</span></div><div><br/>In order to buttress my view, I realize it's important to flip the pages of history and trace the development of this thought (That machines can think or feel).&nbsp;</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>So, in my article, I intend to do the following.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>1. Contextualize this thought by charting out its history</div><div>2. Briefly discuss popular theories that offer credence to such thinking.</div><div>3. Share my view on why it's a fad.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Without further ado, let me begin.</div><div><br/></div><span style="font-weight:700;"><h2><strong>A little bit of history</strong></h2></span><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;a. A journey through the Ancient &amp; Medieval world</span></div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Time travel to most parts of the ancient or medieval world and the belief was that the world was divided into 2 realms. The superlunar realm - everything above the moon consisting of stars &amp; heavens&nbsp; - and the sublunar realm - everything below the moon consisting of earth, humans, animals &amp; plants. The gods resided in the superlunar world but also controlled forces in the sublunar realm, like thunder, lightning, and floods.</div><div><br/></div><div>As part of this rubric of thinking, humans - across different cultures - believed in the idea of an immaterial soul (not made up of biological matter)<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_of_God"> made in the image of god</a> (Particularly a christian view) as the animating principle of consciousness and life. While I've given the Christian example, most of the other cultures, be it the ancient Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Vedic people, Greeks etc have had the conception of an immaterial soul that was different from the biological substrate (bones, tissues, nerves etc). Sure, there were other concurrent strands of thought, but this was the dominant thinking. This thinking is reflected in the philosophical doctrine of Vitalism which was popular in the medieval times.&nbsp;</div><div><br/></div>
<div>here's a definition of Vitalism,</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&quot;There are many opinions about what vitalism actually is. In general, it is the doctrine that<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7217401/"> life originates in a vital principle</a>, distinct from chemical and other forces. It is a belief that there is a vital force operating in the living organism and that this cannot be reduced or explained simply by physical or chemical factors.&quot;</div><div><br/></div><div>In a nutshell, the dominant thinking until the middle ages was that god was the architect of both the external world - thunder, floods, lightning, nature in general - and the inner world - thoughts, feelings, emotions, with the animating principle life as the source for this inner world.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br/></div><div style="font-weight:700;">b. Scientific revolution, Enlightenment, &amp; Empiricism</div><div><span style="font-weight:700;"><br/></span></div><div>However, the advent of modern science, kick started by the<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Revolution"> Scientific Revolution</a>, fundamentally transformed our thinking about the external world. It paved the way for a more evidence-based, naturalistic understanding of it. Advances in astronomy, physics, chemistry, and geology offered a completely naturalistic explanation of the external world. What was once explained in terms of god was now explained with mathematical laws.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Advances in the sciences influenced philosophy, giving birth to the age of<a href="https://www.britannica.com/event/Enlightenment-European-history"> enlightenment</a>, which celebrated reason and<a href="https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/religion-and-philosophy/empiricism"> empirical</a> thought. Historians refer to this period as the &quot;Age of Enlightenment&quot; to highlight the contrast between a perceived &quot;ignorant&quot; past and a future driven by reason. <span style="font-style:italic;">In this period, knowledge was parameterized</span>, which meant that for something to be regarded as knowledge, it had to pass through the filters of reason, logic, and experimental observations.&nbsp; <span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;">In a way, the new paradigm killed the necessity for a god and a soul and necessitated everything to be</span><a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mechanistic"><span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;"> explained mechanistically</span></a><span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;"> in terms of scientific theories and mathematical equations. [This is what I meant by 'knowledge was parameterized.' There was now just ONE way to understand the entire gamut of reality, through equations. If you want just one takeaway from this section, it's this one.]</span></div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>But there was a catch.</div><div><br/></div><div>The rigorous<a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/intro-to-biology/science-of-biology/a/the-science-of-biology"> scientific framework</a> applied to understand the external world did not seem to readily lend itself to unpack the workings of the inner world. The world of feelings, thoughts, and emotions. While one could mathematically describe the laws of motion or the behavior of electricity, describing human behavior mathematically seemed elusive. So, mind sciences (Psychology) was always regarded as a 'soft-science.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>But scientists did not give up. Over the years, they came up with many theories and models to explain the human mind and behavior. It's beyond the scope of the article to cover those but some of the key ideas were structuralism, psychoanalysis,&nbsp; associationism, and behaviorism.</div><div><br/></div><div>I’d like to touch upon behaviorism briefly - the precursor to today’s computational models - to set the stage and illustrate the scientific climate in the mind sciences before the advent of theoretical models that underpin AI.<br/><br/></div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-weight:700;">c. Understanding human behavior: Behaviorism &amp; its limitations</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Behaviorism states that human behavior is a response to environmental stimuli. Developed and popularized by scientists like Pavlov, Watson, and Skinner, it holds that all behaviors are learned through<a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/behaviorism.html"> conditioned interaction</a> with the environment. Which simply means that you could condition animals or humans to manifest certain behaviors (like salivating) based on environmental stimuli (bell sound).&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html">Pavlov's dog experiment</a> is a must read to understand classical conditioning.&nbsp;<a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/pavlov.html"></a></div><div><br/></div><div>While it had a scientific approach to studying behavior (observation, testing, replication), behaviorism treated the human mind like a black box and focused entirely on external stimuli. It also did not explain cognition, memory, language, and other higher order functions. Chomsky, amongst others,<a href="https://englishmystics.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/chomskys-criticism-on-behaviourism-in-the-light-of-mentalism/"> criticized behaviorism</a> for being too simplistic and believed that it did not capture the workings of the human mind and behavior.</div><div><br/></div><div>While mind-scientists grappled with behaviorism, a new technology emerged. Computers. As computers transformed sciences, humans started seeing an interesting parallel between computers and the mind. Computers worked based on rules, representations, symbol manipulation, and feedback loops. What if the human mind also worked in the same way?&nbsp; <span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;">This simple assumption paved the way for the Computational Theory of Mind (CTM) - one that gave birth to Artificial Intelligence and Cognitive Science.</span></div><div><span style="font-style:italic;font-weight:700;"><br/></span></div><h2><span style="font-weight:700;">Models that under gird Artificial Intelligence</span></h2><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="font-weight:700;">a. Computational theory of mind</span></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Warren McCulloh and Walter Pitts were a pair of Cybernetics that pioneered neural networks in the 1940s, and it's they who came up with the &quot;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_theory_of_mind">Computational Theory of Mind</a>&quot;. They were the first ones to suggest that the human mind functioned, at the neural level, much like a Turing machine. Both manipulated symbols, utilized feedback loops, had mental models etc. Essentially, they argued that human thought was just computation.</div><div><br/></div><div>Quoting from Wikipedia.</div><div><br/></div><div>&quot;The computational theory of mind holds that the human mind is a computational system that is realized (i.e., physically implemented) by neural activity in the brain. The theory can be elaborated in many ways and varies largely based on how the term computation is understood. Computation is commonly understood in terms of Turing machines which manipulate symbols according to a rule, in combination with the internal state of the machine. <span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;">The critical aspect of such a computational model is that we can abstract away from particular physical details of the machine that is implementing the computation. For example, the appropriate computation could be implemented either by silicon chips or biological neural networks</span>, <span style="font-weight:700;font-style:italic;">so long as there is a series of outputs based on manipulations of inputs and internal states, performed according to a rule</span><span style="font-weight:700;">.</span> CTM therefore holds that the mind is not simply analogous to a computer program, but that it is literally a computational system.&quot;</div><div><br/></div><div>They drew parallels between how a computer worked and humans worked. I'll break it down the way I understand it.</div><div><br/></div><div>Assume you want to add two numbers: 4 + 5.&nbsp; What do you do? You refer to certain concepts, representations, rules. For instance, you need to be aware of the concept of numbers. You need to follow the rule that when adding, you need to combine. You need to manipulate symbols (i.e mentally transform representations).&nbsp;</div><div><br/></div><div>Computers do just that. Representations in computers are just binary patterns. So, it represents the numbers 4 (0100) or 5 (0101) in binary form. Then, rules are encoded in the software w.r.t what addition means. Symbol manipulation is transformation of bit patterns (actual job).</div><div><br/></div><div>This does not work only for numbers or other mathematical concepts. It can be applied to language as well where everything is broken into a series of tokens and operated on by mathematical rules and statistical patterns.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><span style="font-weight:700;">b. Information Theory</span></div><div><span style="font-weight:700;"><br/></span></div><div>McCulloh and Pitts' work coincided with Claude Shannon's<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory"> information theory</a> which is the mathematical study of the quantification, storage,&nbsp; and communication of information. In common usage, we intuitively treat information as something that carries meaning. That's because we use language to communicate information, and</div><div>language consists of both syntax (rules and relationships) and semantics (meanings).</div><div><br/></div><div>For instance, when I say, &quot;I had breakfast&quot;.</div><div><br/></div><div>a. There are rules that govern that statement, where &quot;I&quot; denotes the subject; &quot;had&quot; -the verb; and &quot;breakfast&quot; - the object.</div><div><br/></div><div>b. There are relationships that govern the structure. Ex: Verb must be placed after the subject etc</div><div><br/></div><div>Meaning arises from the interplay between rules, structure, &amp; shared conventions</div><div><br/></div><div>As long as we agree what &quot;I&quot;, &quot;had&quot;, &quot;breakfast&quot; mean (Individually and in relation to each other in a sentence), we can infer that the subject consumed a morning meal at some point in time and this information carries meaning.</div><div><br/></div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>But Shannon’s revolutionary idea was <span style="font-weight:700;">to strip meaning out of information entirely</span>.</div><div>What matters is only the structure, the symbols, and the probabilities with which they appear. Therefore, information became purely mathematical devoid of meaning. <span style="font-weight:700;">In a way, he redefined information to exclude the need for a conscious subject.</span></div><div>Listen to it directly from the<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1afrzErFy_k"> horse's mouth</a>.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;">&nbsp;<br/></p><h2><span style="font-weight:700;">c. Marriage between Computational &amp; Information theory&nbsp;</span></h2><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>For this section, I am quoting from</div><div>&quot;God, Human, Animal, Machine&quot; written by Meghan O' Gieblyn</div><div><br/></div><div>[Page 14, 15]</div><div><br/></div><div>&quot;Taken together, this early work in cybernetics had an odd circularity to it. Shannon removed the thinking mind from the concept of information. Meanwhile, McCulloch applied the logic of information processing to the mind itself. This resulted in a model of mind in which thought could be accounted for in purely abstract, mathematical terms, and opened up the possibility that computers could execute mental functions. If thinking was just information processing, computers could be said to &quot;learn&quot;, &quot;reason&quot;, and &quot;understand&quot; - words that were, at least in the beginning, put in quotation marks to denote them as metaphors. But as cybernetics evolved and computational analogy was applied across a more expansive variety of biological and artificial systems, the limits of the metaphor began to dissolve, such that it became increasingly difficult to tell the difference between matter and form, medium and message, metaphor and reality.&quot;</div><div><br/></div><div>This is exactly how the belief that AI could become conscious started taking hold.&nbsp;</div><div><br/></div><span style="font-weight:700;"><div>In other words, from the scientific revolution to modern computational theories, humans were gradually described in mechanistic terms (remember the death of god and soul), reducing us to mere machines so that machines could, in turn, be elevated to the level of humans.</div></span><h2 style="margin-bottom:14pt;"><span style="font-weight:700;"><br/>Search for a Conscious AI is a fad.</span></h2><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>&nbsp;I have 2 reasons to think it's a fad, with the second reason being the most important one. However, it's useful to understand my first reason as well.</div><div><br/></div>
<div style="font-weight:700;">a. It's just syntactic</div><div><span style="font-weight:700;"><br/></span></div>
<div>First, I'd like to admit upfront that it's impossible to make objective proclamations about AI consciousness. Forget about AI, I cannot prove that the one reading my article is a conscious being and not a bot, because, as Thomas Nagel mentioned in his essay<a href="https://www.sas.upenn.edu/%7Ecavitch/pdf-library/Nagel_Bat.pdf"> &quot;what is it like to be a bat,&quot;</a>&nbsp; consciousness is experienced from a first-person perspective, and that's why<a href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Turing-test"> Turing-test</a> was the benchmark to ascertain machine intelligence. So, I fully recognize that the question will always be an open-ended one.</div><div><br/></div><div>Yet I have reasons to believe that AI isn't or cannot become conscious. Forget about consciousness, I argue AI doesn't 'understand' or 'reason' in the true sense of the word.</div><div><br/></div><div>&nbsp;We can understand this with a thought experiment called the<a href="https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/artificial-intelligence/chinese-room-argument-artificial-intelligence/"> Chinese room -</a> proposed by the philosopher John Searle.</div><div><br/></div><div>A quick summary of the argument.</div><div>Searle asks us to imagine a person who doesn’t understand Chinese sitting in a room with an instruction manual in English, explaining how to manipulate Chinese symbols. Through the slot in the door, he receives questions in Chinese. Now, he does not understand what the question means, yet he's able to respond with the help of an instruction manual. From the outside, it appears as though the person knows Chinese, yet in reality, he's just following rules.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;">&nbsp;<br/>Searle argues that this thought experiment highlights that a computer program that simulates human understanding of language, such as a chatbot, does not truly understand the meaning of the language it is processing, and it's only following a set of rules.</p><div><br/></div>
<span style="font-weight:700;"><div>Note:<span style="font-weight:400;"> I am sure most of the AI models don't work only based on simple rules and show much more complex &quot;behavior.&quot; They &quot;learn&quot; from patterns, “apply” statistical probabilities, and &quot;self-correct.&quot; Agreed.&nbsp; But at its core, it is all math - linear algebra, calculus, probability etc and manipulation of these concepts.&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></div></span><div><br/></div><div><span style="font-weight:bold;">But are these accompanied by any first person experience?</span> When an AI predicts customer churn or a revenue dip, is it going to fear being fired?</div><div><br/></div><div>Stockfish chess engine has defeated Magnus Carlsen. But did it care when the game got long. Did it experience the fear of losing, or the jubilation of defeating the greatest chess player of all time? We don't know. But it's reasonable to assume it didn't.</div><div><br/></div><div>7 could be your favorite number. Perhaps because it's your daughter's birthday or your wedding anniversary day etc. <span style="font-weight:700;">The context or the semantics is what makes us humans, and it's logical to assume AI does not have it, because it is designed to preclude the semantics.</span></div><div><br/></div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><span style="font-weight:700;">b. It's just the latest metaphor</span></div><div><br/></div><div>Metaphors are popular in language usage. In science and technology, it serves to break down complex ideas into relatable concepts. Reading the history of science informs me that we have used metaphors to make sense of ourselves and the world around us and this metaphor depended on the technology of the day. Going by this line of thinking, <span style="font-style:italic;">the 'mind-computer' metaphor is just the latest metaphor.</span>&nbsp;</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;">Here are a few examples from history.</p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><span style="font-weight:700;">Clocks: </span>Post the scientific revolution, the entire universe was compared to a giant clock to underscore that it worked in predictable ways based on the classical laws of physics. The<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clockwork_universe"> clockwork universe</a> became a popular metaphor at the time. In line with the idea, the metaphor was applied to biological functions as well. In “Treatise on Man”,<a href="https://writer.zoho.in/writer/open/mhcw0e0a95e7473d146b18f7c8bd4497d83b4"> René Descartes wrote:</a></div><div><br/></div><div>“These functions (including passion, memory, and imagination) follow from the mere arrangement of the machine’s organs every bit as naturally as the movements of a clock or other automaton follow from the arrangement of its counter-weights and wheels”</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;">&nbsp;</p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div><span style="font-weight:700;">Telegraphs:&nbsp; </span>&nbsp;With the invention of telegraphs, the brain was<a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/ecology-and-evolution/articles/10.3389/fevo.2021.760269/full"> compared to telegraphs</a>.</div><div><br/></div><div>&quot;Thirty years later, Ramon y Cajal used the telegraph network to explain the structure and function of a single neuron: The nerve cell consists of an apparatus for the reception of currents, as seen in the dendritic expansions and the cell body, an apparatus for transmission, represented by the prolonged axis cylinder, and an apparatus for division or distribution, represented by the nerve terminal arborisation. (<a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/ecology-and-evolution/articles/10.3389/fevo.2021.760269/full#B10">Cajal, 1894</a>). Cajal even used wiring as a way of explaining what was happening in the as yet unnamed synapse: current must be transmitted from one cell to another by way of contiguity or contact, as in the splicing of two telegraph wires”</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>Freud compared the<a href="https://metaphors.iath.virginia.edu/metaphors/24583"> brain to a steam engine</a> while Descartes compared it to Hydraulics.&nbsp; In his essay, &quot;<a href="https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Ejgd1000/metaphors.pdf">Brain Metaphor and Brain theory</a>&quot;,&nbsp; John G. Daugman vision scientist traces the history of different metaphors used to describe mind and body.</div><div><br/>Back in my college days, I was good at Table Tennis. While my friends played with professional paddles that cost thousands of rupees, I played with a cheap one that was available in my local college store. I intuitively knew they had far superior ones, but never for a second did I confuse it with a tennis racket. But that is exactly what we are doing with AI. Confusing it with a tennis racket. Of course, AI systems are far superior than clocks or telegraphs, but it's still a machine. It's merely the latest technology in the long litany of technologies that the mind has been compared to.&nbsp;</div><div><br/></div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17);font-family:&quot;Work Sans&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:28px;font-weight:700;">Conclusion</span><span style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17);font-family:&quot;Work Sans&quot;, sans-serif;font-size:28px;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p><div>When I set out to write the article, I did not really know where to start and what direction to take. I was tempted to reduce the length of this article by half without delving into the history and contemporary theories on Artificial Intelligence.&nbsp; But eventually, I decided to chart out the history of the development of this thought, because I deeply believe it's important to place every idea, theory or a scientific model in context.</div><div><br/></div><div>The fall of medieval models, the rise of modern science, the Enlightenment, and concomitant intellectual movements were crucial for the development of this thought, because they changed our conception of knowledge and formalized the methods for acquiring it. Experimental science became the touchstone for acquiring knowledge. While it helped in unraveling the workings of the external world, it posed challenges in unraveling the inner world.</div><div><br/></div><div>However, the computers (new technology) were revolutionary and with its rise, we saw our image reflected in them. With the advent of computational models (CTM, IT), the inner world, which remained a black box hitherto finally lent itself for scrutiny as these models provided a mathematical framework to study the mind, thus facilitating the birth of Artificial Intelligence and Cognitive Science.</div><p></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;"></p><div>The spectacular success of these models in creating complex technologies has now led many of us to mistake (in my view) the metaphor for reality. Is the human mind just an information processing system? Is thought nothing but computation? Does consciousness not require a biological substrate?</div><div><br/></div><div>The proponents of AI consciousness will shout out a big YES. But we have the benefit of learning from history and a reading of the history of science, mind science particularly, illustrates how the human mind was compared to various technologies of the day.</div><div><br/></div><div>Given our history, I wouldn’t be surprised if, 300 years from now, the mind is compared to some new technology of the day that contains an entirely different conceptual framework, with its proponents insisting they have finally found the true explanation for how the mind works or what consciousness is.</div><div><br/></div><div>And for this very reason, I think that the search for a conscious AI is a fad.</div><div><br/></div><p></p><p></p></div></div>
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It's hard to explain morality, because ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_LABBaIcTRoGI-dpsU6NJ-Q" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer-fluid zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_VKXUVATrSqCK0UTbcO3O0g" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zprow-container zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- " data-equal-column=""><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_J1UsoLSYRCWI9MqOQmQm6Q" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_y8WRo8hfQUy69gpOrl0ZxQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style> [data-element-id="elm_y8WRo8hfQUy69gpOrl0ZxQ"].zpelem-text { border-radius:1px; } @media (max-width: 767px) { [data-element-id="elm_y8WRo8hfQUy69gpOrl0ZxQ"].zpelem-text { border-radius:1px; } } @media all and (min-width: 768px) and (max-width:991px){ [data-element-id="elm_y8WRo8hfQUy69gpOrl0ZxQ"].zpelem-text { border-radius:1px; } } </style><div class="zptext zptext-align-center " data-editor="true"><div style="text-align:left;"><p style="color:inherit;"></p><p></p><div><p></p><div><p></p><div><p></p><p><span style="color:inherit;">Morals are stupendously complicated, because they are not clear-cut facts. Instead, they are value judgements. It's hard to explain morality, because it takes you into a regress. Let's do this: assume you roughly define morality as principles about RIGHT and WRONG, or GOOD and EVIL.&nbsp;Now, how do you define or know what is RIGHT &amp; WRONG, or GOOD &amp; EVIL.</span><br><br><span style="color:inherit;">You might instantly argue that one knows this intuitively. After all, how many times have you heard your inner voice telling you to act morally during a predicament? Possibly hundreds or even thousands. So, you must be inclined to believe that you know what morality already is.</span><br><br><b style="color:inherit;"><i>However, nothing is common sense, intuitive, or obvious for philosophy and my goal with this article is to engage in a philosophical discussion about morality.</i></b><br><br><span style="color:inherit;">Across millennia, religious seers, scientists, intellectuals, and secular philosophers amongst others have ruminated about morality and have contributed to the large corpus of moral philosophy. The central challenge in moral philosophy, as famously articulated by David Hume - Scottish philosopher and a leading luminary of the Enlightenment - is </span><span style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);"><a href="https://philosophynow.org/issues/83/Hume_on_Is_and_Ought" target="_blank" rel="" style="text-decoration-line:underline;">deducing an 'ought' from an 'is'</a>.</span><span style="color:inherit;"> What 'IS' is a fact, but what 'ought' is a moral judgment and this has spawned numerous schools of thought studying morality.</span><br><br><b style="color:inherit;"><i>In this article, I will explore 3 such schools of thought and highlight what I perceive as some of the glaring shortcomings of each. So, without further ado, let me begin.&nbsp;</i></b><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;</p><p style="color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:24px;">1. Religious Morality</span></b><br><br><span style="font-size:16px;">Religious morality is a system in which religious scriptures serve as the guide for determining what is RIGHT and WRONG.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;">People who derive their morals from scriptures are typically believers and followers of major world religions. For them, their scriptures serve as the</p><p style="color:inherit;">toolkit for what is RIGHT and WRONG, because RIGHT and WRONG are associated with what is considered VIRTUE and SIN, based on the commandments of a deity or prophet (In Abrahamic context). In the Hindu context, scriptures serve as the basis for determining good or bad karma.&nbsp;<br><br>Christian apologetics is a particular area of interest for me. So, let me illustrate my point with an example. The idea that humans derive moral values from god is so strong amongst Christians that in fact the <a href="https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/the-moral-argument-for-god" style="text-decoration-line:underline;">moral argument</a> is presented as evidence of god's existence.</p><p style="color:inherit;"><br></p><p style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;<b>a. The moral argument</b></span></p><p style="color:inherit;">It goes like.<br>1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.</p><p style="color:inherit;">2. Objective moral values do exist.</p><p style="color:inherit;">3. Therefore, God exists.<br><br>The argument centers on the premise that in the absence of god, morals are merely subjective human judgements, and that it would not be possible, philosophically speaking, to objectively distinguish RIGHT from WRONG, GOOD from EVIL.<br><br>Yet, the argument goes, that <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;">we have an objective sense of RIGHT and WRONG</span>. We all tend to consider certain things as objectively RIGHT and others as objectively WRONG, such as pedophilia or child sacrifice.</p><p style="color:inherit;"><br>In the absence of god, the proponents argue, that any set of moral values one practices is arbitrary, because these rules are generated by humans as a consequence of our unique socio-cultural context, which implies they may not necessarily hold objectively true in all contexts. I have the strongest sympathy to this line of thinking.<br><br>I have further elaborated this idea under &quot;Scientific morality.&quot; This line of thinking is however not bereft of counter arguments and criticisms. Below is one classic example.<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;<b><span style="font-size:18px;">b) Euthyphro's dilemma</span></b>&nbsp;<br></p><p style="color:inherit;">Socrates was a great thinker and a philosopher and he posed the strongest challenge to religious morality (Although he challenged the religious morality of the Greeks). In a dialogue recorded by Plato, Socrates asks Euthyphro the following and their conversation on holiness and piety is now studied as <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://www.str.org/w/euthyphro-s-dilemma-1">Euthyphro's dilemma</a>.&nbsp;</span><br><br><i style="text-decoration-line:underline;">Is an action right because it is commanded by the gods, or do the gods command it because it is right?</i><br><br><b><i>Socrates' point was that if god commands something because it is RIGHT, then what makes something RIGHT is independent of god, and if one derives the notions of RIGHT and WRONG from god, then for god himself there's no distinction between RIGHT and WRONG. Which means good and bad are subject to god's whims and fancies.</i></b><br><br>In contemporary times, Bertrand Rusel, in his essay <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;">&quot;<a href="https://users.drew.edu/%7Ejlenz/whynot.html">Why I am not a Christian</a>&quot; </span>gave the strongest counter argument to religious morality. While Christians have tried <a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/thinking-through-euthyphros-and-the-atheists-dilemma/#:%7E:text=The%20Christian%20rejects%20the%20first%2Cfirst%20horn%20of%20the%20dilemma)." style="text-decoration-line:underline;">responding</a> to Russell and his ilk's criticism, the floor is still open for debate.&nbsp;<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:18px;"><span>Shortcomings</span>:</span><br>Religious morality is <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_and_religion">not the same across different religions</a></span>and might even vary within different sects of the same religion. Christian morality might be guided by biblical and church doctrines, Islamic morality by Quran, Hadiths and Hindu morality by Bhagvad Geetha, Vedas, and Dharma Shastras. All these are different scriptures that make conflicting value judgements. To give a simple example, In Abrahamic faiths, idol worship is <a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/sin-as-idolatry/#:%7E:text=At%20the%20root%20of%20all%20sin%20is%20idolatry%E2%80%94the%20worship%2Ctragedy%E2%80%9D%20(see%20Stephen%20G.">considered a sin</a>, whereas it is a central practice in Hinduism.<br><br>Adherents of Abrahamic religions often address the challenge of religious multiplicity by asserting that their faith is the one true faith. However, I disagree with this claim, as I believe the question of which religion is true isn't a matter of objective truth in the same way as a mathematical equation. It's not a proposition that can be definitively proven true or false, like asking if 2 + 2 equals 5.<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:24px;">2. Scientific morality&nbsp;</span></b><span style="font-size:20px;"><br></span><br><span style="font-size:16px;">In his famous Ted Talk 14 years ago, Sam Harris - one of the four horsemen of atheism -&nbsp;argued that <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww" style="text-decoration-line:underline;">science could answer moral questions.</a> Common knowledge dictates that science does not concern itself with human judgments, which is the very definition of doing science. However, with his persuasive speech, Sam Harris almost convinced the audience about science's ability to answer moral questions. I call this the scientific morality.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;"><span style="text-decoration-line:underline;">Sam's primary motivation is to disentangle moral judgments such as RIGHT and WRONG from the fetters of religion.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;"><br>To set the context, when we say a certain human action is RIGHT or WRONG, we are making judgments based on certain underlying axioms. The question is, what is the nature of these axioms? Let's take an example</p><p style="color:inherit;">Consider the act of stealing. We generally agree that stealing is wrong. But let's take a step back and ask two questions before making that judgment</p><ol style="color:inherit;"><li><span style="color:inherit;">Why is stealing wrong?</span></li><li>Is it possible to factually prove that stealing is wrong?<br><br></li></ol><p style="color:inherit;">For the first question, if your argument is that we as a society mutually agreed that stealing is wrong, then you are not talking about morality anymore—you are discussing legality.<br><br>Ask yourself, if the majority decided tomorrow that stealing was right, would that make the act of stealing right? If you feel no, then there is much more to making those moral judgments. Would you then agree that what constitutes a moral value or judgment transcends what a particular society merely<br>agrees or disagrees on?<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">Regarding the second question, whether we can prove it factually, I say no. It's not possible. Think about this: what are facts? Facts are something real. There are trees, animals, and birds in the world.&nbsp;<span style="color:inherit;">These are facts. Facts don't change based on our feelings or opinions.<br></span><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">In this context, let's say person A stole a 1000 rupees from person B. This is a fact as it conveys something real. But when you say such an act is &quot;wrong,&quot; then you are making a &quot;moral&quot; judgment about a fact. Where is the pathway from fact to values? (Remember David Hume's Is-ought problem?). Further to my discussion earlier, the answer is not in what a society collectively agrees, if one wants to make an objective case for morality.<br><br>Traditionally, religions have provided the foundations for morality in all societies. But Harris intends to dissociate morality from religion and instead ground it in science.&nbsp;<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">How is he doing it?<br><br><b><i style="text-decoration-line:underline;">For him, well-being is good and suffering is bad. Anything that leads to well-being is morally good, while anything that causes suffering is morally bad. These are his underlying axioms. How does he intend to scientifically measure well-being or suffering? By measuring conscious experience.</i></b><br><br>His explanation goes like this: We are conscious (alive) creatures and, we are capable of having certain experiences. These experiences can be scientifically measured (this is the important point to his claim) because our brain is involved in our experiences, and his argument is that with progress in technology, we shall be able to correlate brain states with experiences.<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;">To simplify it, consider a table with two columns, labeled good experience and bad experience. Now, populate all the brain states in those two columns. With technology, we must be able to identify the brain states associated with good and bad experiences—that's his argument. A factual basis to determine right and wrong.<br></p><p style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;</p><p style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:18px;">Shortcomings:</span></p><p style="color:inherit;">Even if we managed to hypothetically measure all the experiences, the categorization of what constitutes GOOD and BAD would still remain contextual. Meaning, you can only categorize the experience as good and bad, but there is no way to tell whether actions that led to such an experience is RIGHT or WRONG.<br><br>For example, throwing a convict in jail might lead to their suffering, but they might come out a better person as a result. This does not mean the act of convicting is a morally bad action. If your child is super naughty, you may try to discipline them with a rap on the knuckle. Now, being hit on the knuckle gives a bad experience, but doing such a thing can translate into something good for your child.<br><br>Therefore, what the brain may hypothetically convey is the nature of the experience, but not whether the action that led to the specific experience is good or bad, and there is no factual means to determine it.&nbsp;<span style="color:inherit;">While I commend Harris for his valiant efforts, I feel his scientific morality lacks depth and is too reductionistic.&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><span style="font-size:16px;"><br>In my view, Scientific or secular morality cannot be conceived without further resorting to making a set of 'unscientific' axiomatic claims like &quot;Every individual is inherently worthy of respect.&quot; or that &quot;Human well-being is good&quot; etc. The world we inhabit is deeply imbued with religious presuppositions, which the likes of Harris regard as a rational given.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;</p><p style="color:inherit;margin-bottom:2px;"><b><span style="font-size:24px;">3. Reciprocal altruism</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;">In evolutionary biology, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism" style="text-decoration-line:underline;">reciprocal altruism</a> describes a behaviour in which an organism incurs a cost to its own fitness to increase another organism's fitness in the short term, with the expectation that the favor will be returned in the future.<br><br>In his seminal paper titled <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;">&quot;<a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/images/uploads/Trivers-EvolutionReciprocalAltruism.pdf">The Evolution of Cooperation</a>&quot;,</span>&nbsp;<span style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Trivers">Robert Trivers</a>,</span> one of the founding fathers of evolutionary biology explored the biological basis for cooperative behaviuor in animals, including humans. Trivers introduced the concept of reciprocal altruism, positing that individuals can increase their overall fitness by helping others, provided that the help is reciprocated in the future.<br><br><span style="font-style:italic;text-decoration-line:underline;">Some evolutionary biologists argue that human morality is fundamentally rooted in reciprocity.</span><span style="text-decoration-line:underline;font-style:italic;">They suggest that moral behaviors evolved as key adaptations, forming the foundation of human social behaviour.</span><br><br>I am sure you'd have noticed the paradox. Evolutionary theory emphasizes survival of the fittest, which means reciprocal altrusim seems counterintuitive for an organism to act in ways that may reduce its own fitness. However, evolutionary biologists argue that human groups with individuals displaying moral behaviors fared better, enhanced their reproductive fitness, and passed on more genes than groups with selfish individuals and hence moral behaviors evolved to boost our survival chances.<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Shortcomings </span></b><span style="font-size:16px;">&nbsp;<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;">It occurs to me that our motivations to act morally goes beyond our own selfish interest. When you donate to a charity or help the needy across your street, I am sure it's not with the expectation to receive some kind of help in return in the future.<br><br>From an evolutionary standpoint, the beggar across the street has diminishing fitness because he's short in resources. How then does the expectation of reciprocity make any sense. Therefore, when someone donates to him, it's probably out of compassion and pity and not expectation of reciprocity.&nbsp;<br><br>I think most of us, when we act morally, do so believing that it's the RIGHT thing to do. Therefore, the evolutionary school of thought does not sufficiently explain our moral behaviors or factor in our motivations to act morally.<br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;"><b><span style="font-size:24px;">Putting it all together</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;">Dostoyevsky once famously claimed that <span style="text-decoration-line:underline;">&quot;<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/366931-if-there-s-no-god-all-is-permitted">If there's no god, all is permitted</a>&quot;,</span> encapsulating the religious point of view -&nbsp;in the absence of god it is not possible to distinguish RIGHT from WRONG without making certain axiomatic assumptions like &quot;suffering is bad&quot; etc. However, I discussed the shortcomings of this view. The challenge is in answering which god?&nbsp;Which set of injunctions?<br><br>I also discussed Sam's moral philosophy that can crudely be equated, in my view, with secular or humanist morality and underscored its limitations.<br><br>The explanation of moral behavior from an evolutionary standpoint is unconvincing too.&nbsp;If placing morality at the levitating feet of a deity seems problematic so is ensconcing it in human nature. If moral behaviors are merely adaptations that aided survival in the past (Individually or at a group level), then it's not possible to objectively argue that a certain act is RIGHT or WRONG for all times, because our landscapes have changed.<br>&nbsp;<br><span style="font-style:italic;text-decoration-line:underline;">At the heart of my discussion is the premise that there are certain acts that are objectively GOOD and certain others that are objectively EVIL.</span><br><br>Perhaps this isn't the case.&nbsp;<span style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://neuroanthropology.net/2008/01/12/steven-pinker-and-the-moral-instinct/#:%7E:text=Pinker%20writes%2C%20%E2%80%9CThe%20scientific%20outlook%2Cscience%20can%20understand%20it%20best.">As Steven pinker put it.</a>&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:16px;">&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:16px;">&nbsp;<i>The scientific outlook has taught us that some part of our subjective experiences are products of our biological makeup, and have no objective counterpart in the world. The tastiness of fruit, the scariness of height, and the prettiness of flowers are features of our common nervous system. If our species had evolved in a different ecosystem, or if we'd missed a few genes, our reactions could have gone the other way.</i>&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;<i>Now, if the distinction between RIGHT and WRONG is also a product of brain wiring, why should we believe it anymore real? And if it's just a collective hallucination, how can we argue that evils like genocide or slavery are wrong for everyone, rather than distasteful to us.&quot;</i>&nbsp;<br><b><i>- Steven Pinker, Professor of Psychology, Harvard<br><br></i></b></p></div></div></div></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2024 22:17:12 +0530</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[ Science has not killed god - Grounding belief in philosophy, logic and experience ]]></title><link>https://www.seekerofmeaning.in/blogs/post/science-has-not-killed-god-grounding-belief-in-philosophy-logic-and-experience</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.seekerofmeaning.in/Science has not killed god -1-.png"/>Introduction&nbsp; I love science, and I think it's been the single most important driver of innovation, technology and human well-being. What historic ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_TviH9akXSNuFBVd54b2fgg" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"> [data-element-id="elm_TviH9akXSNuFBVd54b2fgg"].zpsection{ border-radius:1px; } </style><div class="zpcontainer-fluid zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_Gm0irIhqQ3uMiFX1vaQroA" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zprow-container zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- " data-equal-column=""><style type="text/css"> [data-element-id="elm_Gm0irIhqQ3uMiFX1vaQroA"].zprow{ border-radius:1px; } </style><div data-element-id="elm_z01x54YMRyyBDfes6olhyg" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"> [data-element-id="elm_z01x54YMRyyBDfes6olhyg"].zpelem-col{ border-radius:1px; } </style><div data-element-id="elm_vSKnt5MpQEW4851uk4bwsg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style> [data-element-id="elm_vSKnt5MpQEW4851uk4bwsg"].zpelem-text { border-radius:1px; } </style><div class="zptext zptext-align-center " data-editor="true"><div><div><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;margin-bottom:2px;"><b><span style="font-size:26px;text-decoration-line:underline;">Introduction&nbsp;</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">I love science, and I think it's been the single most important driver of innovation, technology and human well-being. What historically propelled science was our curiosity to understand, not just the world we inhabited, but also the heavens that eluded us (metaphorically speaking).&nbsp;</span><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">While we looked around and tried to explain material phenomena, we also constantly looked above and contemplated larger questions - </span><i style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">&quot;How did all this come about&quot;, &quot;Why am I here?&quot;, &quot;Is there any meaning at all to life.&quot;</i><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;"> Science, Theology, and Philosophy went hand in hand, and in its earlier incarnation, Science was referred to as </span><i style="font-size:18px;"><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-science/natural-philosophy/F1FD6F16ACFC81FF69E7B62B013C6FF0" title="Natural philosophy" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Natural philosophy</a></i><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-science/natural-philosophy/F1FD6F16ACFC81FF69E7B62B013C6FF0" style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">.</span></a><br><br></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">However, the advent of modern science, kick started by the scientific revolution, revolutionized our understanding of the world. Many of the entrenched, theological views (for e.g. the geocentric model) fell along the wayside, to pave the way for a more scientific understanding of reality.&nbsp;</span><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">Advances in astronomy, physics, chemistry, and geology, culminating in biology (with evolution) offered a completely naturalistic explanation of reality. Science became the best model to explain everything, and continues to remain so. Such advancements gave rise to the practice of, what many philosophers call </span><i style="font-size:18px;"><a href="https://philosophy.fullerton.edu/faculty/merrill_ring/scientism.aspx#:%7E:text=Scientism%20is%20the%20idea%20that%2Crefer%20to%20it%20as%20scientism." title="Scientism" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Scientism</a></i><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;"> - a term philosophers use to describe what they view as science worship.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Those who practice scientism believe that science is the only way to know reality. After all, scientists like Neil deGrasse Tyson and&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Hawking have explicitly dismissed philosophy, and I don't even have to describe what their attitude might be towards theology.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Today, an average person with a scientific bent of mind might think. &quot;Aha.. Science has indeed explained everything.&quot;&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">I mean, why would they not think that way? After all, we believe that we have a cohesive narrative about everything - <i>The big bang, formation of earth, origins of life, Cambrian explosion, modern human migration, agricultural revolution, founding of Civilisation, industrial revolution, present day.</i> With this opinion, the person might think of the larger questions I had mentioned earlier irrelevant, or assume science has already answered. As a consequence, they might scoff at philosophy and theology.<br><br></span></p><div style="text-align:left;"><b style="color:inherit;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">But like every model, science has its scope &amp; limitations, and that's my reason for writing this article.</span></i></b><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;"> My aim with this article is not to diss science, or to diminish its power in enabling us to understand reality (who am I to do that!), especially considering all that we have accomplished because of science.&nbsp;</span><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">My goal is to attempt to put science into proper perspective, and in the process highlight certain key areas where the scope of science might be limited, particularly in relation to answering the larger questions about life.<br><br></span></div><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Consequently, I'd like to argue that the <b><i>idea of a metaphysical power being the source of everything is still relevant and worth contemplating.</i></b> In my endeavor, I've tried my best not to appeal to theology, unjustified faith, or mindless belief. Rather, I've formulated my arguments by referring largely to philosophy, logic, and experience - Insofar as I understand these two disciplines. Before I set out to elaborate on my arguments, I'd like to begin by discussing modern science and how it's done.&nbsp;<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;margin-bottom:2px;"><b><span style="font-size:28px;"><span style="font-size:26px;">How is modern science done?</span><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Modern science is characterized by the </span><a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/science/biology/intro-to-biology/science-of-biology/a/the-science-of-biology" title="scientific method" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">scientific method</a><span style="color:inherit;">. The scientific method involves following a set of practices.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">1. Make an observation: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">You observe a pattern in the world.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">2. Ask a question: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Why does it behave that way?</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">3. Form a hypothesis: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Make an educated guess that entails a testable prediction</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">4. Experiment:</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;"> Conduct experiments to test your prediction. If a prediction turns out to be incorrect, refine the hypothesis, and if it turns out to be right, test more.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">5. Test more: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Subject your hypothesis to further rigorous testing, and if it still stands the scrutiny, generalize</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">6. Induction: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Generalize and form a theory based on inductive reasoning.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">The Scientific method and its central feature<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">The central feature behind this method is its ability to be falsified. According to </span><a href="https://iep.utm.edu/pop-sci/" title="Karl Popper" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Karl Popper</a><span style="color:inherit;">, scientific theories are characterized by future predictions that can invalidate the theory. This feature, in Popper's eyes, distinguished science from pseudo-science. Here's </span><a href="https://www.sfu.ca/%7Eswartz/popper.htm" title="Popper" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Popper's account</a><span style="color:inherit;"> of why the theory of general relativity is science, whereas Freud's theory of psychoanalysis and marxists' theory of history are pseudo-science. In a nutshell, </span><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/02/08/whats-wrong-with-newtonian-gravity/?sh=4f8e37b3c604" style="color:inherit;">Newton's theory of gravity</a><span style="color:inherit;"> or Einstein's theory of general relativity made specific predictions, which if it did not agree with observations, could've been proven wrong, as with how </span><span style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/02/08/whats-wrong-with-newtonian-gravity/?sh=4f8e37b3c604" title="Newton's theory of gravity" target="_blank" rel="">Newton's</a><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/02/08/whats-wrong-with-newtonian-gravity/?sh=4f8e37b3c604" title="Newton's theory of gravity" target="_blank" rel=""> theory of gravity</a></span><span style="color:inherit;"> was indeed proven to be an incorrect account of gravity. Whereas any behavioral phenomena could be retro-fitted into Freud's model of psychoanalysis. Popper thought this was a problem. Given Popper's observations, we can infer that scientific theories are subject to change.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Thomas Kuhn, a historian and philosopher of science, made similar observations about science. In his book philosophy of science, Samir Osaka discusses khun's views on science. In Khun's opinion - Paraphrasing from the book,<br><i style="color:inherit;font-size:16px;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Many think that science progresses towards the truth in a linear fashion. They believe that incorrect ideas get replaced by newer, correct ones, thus later theories are objectively better than earlier ones, and hence,&nbsp; scientific knowledge accumulates over time.</span></i><br></span></p><i><div style="text-align:left;"><i style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">But this is not how science works. Science is practiced based on an established paradigm - a set of axioms, assumptions, and methods embody a paradigm. A paradigm is accepted when its theory comports with a particular set of empirical observations (it holds true for a set of facts about the world). However, a paradigm will always have anomalies (a set of observational facts that it can’t explain). Over time, the anomalies accumulate and the paradigm becomes untenable. This gives rise to a new paradigm (Scientific revolution) that’s markedly different from the earlier one, which helps scientists explain all of the empirical facts from the earlier set and the new set.<br><br></span></i></div></i><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The <a href="https://www.seekerofmeaning.com/blogs/post/science-has-not-killed-god-grounding-belief-in-philosophy-logic-and-experience">central</a> point is, with new tools, new approaches, and new pieces of information, scientific theories are bound to change. So, <b><i>they don’t necessarily offer true descriptions about reality, but they offer convenient explanations for our empirical observations!</i></b> With this context, let me set out to make some arguments which have been historically made for the existence of a higher source of truth. While there are many more such powerful arguments, I have chosen the below - primarily because I believe they have good explanatory power.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><b><span style="font-size:26px;">1.</span></b><span style="font-size:26px;"><b style="text-decoration-line:underline;">The Kalam Cosmological Argument </b></span>&nbsp;<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Thomas Aquinas made </span><a href="https://philosophy.lander.edu/intro/aquinas.shtml" title="Thomas Aquinas" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">5 arguments</a><span style="color:inherit;"> to prove god's existence. The first four are collectively referred to as the cosmological arguments. However, I'd like to discuss its variant - The Kalam cosmological argument, which was propounded by Al-Ghazali - a twelfth century Muslim theologian and later explicated by Dr. William Lane Craig, who I profoundly admire.<br></span><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Premise 1: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Everything that begins to exist has a cause.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Objection</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Quantum particles can come into existence from nothing</span></span><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Scientists like Lawrence Krauss maintain that quantum particles frequently pop in and out of existence from </span><a href="https://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145175263/lawrence-krauss-on-a-universe-from-nothing" title="Krauss" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">nothing</a><span style="color:inherit;">.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 1</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">In his review of Lawrence Krauss's book, Here's what David Albert, B.S., Physics, Columbia College; Ph.D., Theoretical Physics, The Rockefeller University wrote.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><i style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&quot;And the fact that particles can pop in and out of existence, over time, as those fields rearrange themselves, is not a whit more mysterious than the fact that fists can pop in and out of existence, over time, as my fingers rearrange themselves. And none of these poppings — if you look at them right — amount to anything even remotely in the neighborhood of a creation from nothing.&quot; -&nbsp; </span></i><i><span style="font-size:18px;text-decoration-line:underline;color:rgb(48, 4, 234);"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/books/review/a-universe-from-nothing-by-lawrence-m-krauss.html?_r=1" title="Review by David Albert" target="_blank" rel="">Review by David Albert</a></span></i><br><br></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">According to Hilbert, Krauss argues that quantum particles pop in and out of existence because of the fundamental physical laws that govern relativistic quantum field theories. However, Hilbert argues that does not constitute nothing.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">&quot;The fundamental physical laws that Krauss is talking about in “A Universe From Nothing” — the laws of relativistic quantum field theories — are no exception to this. The particular, eternally persisting, elementary physical stuff of the world, according to the standard presentations of relativistic quantum field theories, consists (unsurprisingly) of relativistic quantum fields. And the fundamental laws of this theory take the form of rules concerning which arrangements of those fields are physically possible and which aren’t, and rules connecting the arrangements of those fields at later times to their arrangements at earlier times, and so on — and they have nothing whatsoever to say on the subject of where those fields came from, or of why the world should have consisted of the particular kinds of fields it does, or of why it should have consisted of fields at all, or of why there should have been a world in the first place. Period. Case closed. End of story.&quot;<br><br></span></i></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 2</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Dr Craig tackles this problem in his own way and gives </span><a href="https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/popular-writings/existence-nature-of-god/the-kalam-cosmological-argument" title="Bill Craig" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">3 reasons to support</a><span style="color:inherit;"> the 1st premise. To summarize his responses, Dr Craig argues that we have no good reasons to believe that something can come out of nothing and reckons such arguments an appeal to something worse than magic. So, Krauss and his proponents fail to establish how something can come out of nothing. In other words, they fail to provide a logical explanation for how something can come into existence without a cause.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 3</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">In order to show that something can come out of nothing, it's imperative to establish that something can be one of the consequences of nothing. But nothingness has no properties and hence it cannot yield any consequences. Therefore, it's not logically plausible for something to come out of nothing.</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Premise 2: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">The universe began to exist (which means, it’s finite in time, size and space)<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Objection 1</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The universe always existed and will always exist.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 1</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">This implies that the universe had an infinite past. However, infinite regress of events, Craig argues, would lead to all kinds of absurdities, as he explains with this </span><a href="https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/popular-writings/existence-nature-of-god/the-kalam-cosmological-argument" title="Hilbert Hotel" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Hilbert hotel example</a><span style="color:inherit;">.&nbsp;</span></span><span style="font-size:18px;color:inherit;">Here's another </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqN87vzauRM" title="infinite regress" target="_blank" rel="" style="font-size:18px;color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">explanation</a><span style="font-size:18px;color:inherit;"> for why infinite regress is logically not possible in the following.</span></p><div style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">Paraphrasing from the video:<br><br></span></div><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">If we had an actual infinite universe, then it would not be logically possible to reach the present. We reach the present by successive additions, one moment of time is added by another moment of time and then added by another moment of time. But if we have an infinite past, if we could go forever into the past, then there is no point we can begin to add moments in order to reach the present.</span></i></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">Assume you set out on a journey to your home, and your home was an infinite miles away. No matter how long you walked, you will never reach your home, as you'd still have to cover an infinite amount of distance. The same applies when you traverse the past. If the past is infinite, then no matter how much time has passed by, you will never reach the present moment, because it would take an infinite amount of time to come to the present. But we are in the present moment. So because of this we have to reject an actual infinite universe and the possibility of infinite regress.<br><br></span></i></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 2</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">We know from our existing cosmological theory, which we refer to as the </span><a href="https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html" title="Big bang" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Big bang</a><span style="color:inherit;"> that the universe had a beginning. I think it'd be unnecessary to discuss the evidence for the Big bang in this article. So, I leave it at this.</span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Objection 2</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Our universe is part of a multiverse - a cyclic set of events that cause the Big bang,the death and destruction of the universe, followed by another Big bang.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 1</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Who created the multiverse? We discussed how infinite regress of events is not plausible. Therefore, there must have been a first cause.<br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response 2</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Why is there </span><a href="https://philosophynow.org/issues/125/Why_Is_There_Something_Rather_Than_Nothing#:%7E:text=Nothing%20must%20have%20no%20properties%2Celse%20you%20can%20think%20of." title="first cause" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">something at all</a><span style="color:inherit;"> and not nothing?<br><br></span></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Objection 3</span></b></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">We need to take it as a brute fact that the universe exists.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">This line of argument was propounded by </span><a href="https://www.openculture.com/2012/11/bertrand_russell_and_fc_copleston_debate_the_existence_of_god_1948.html" title="Bertrand Russel" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Betrand Russell</a><span style="color:inherit;"> and </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-QkJUxcGt8" title="Sean Carroll" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Sean Carroll</a><br><br></span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Response:</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">If we have to take it on faith that It's a brute fact that the universe exists, why not take it on faith that God created the universe?</span></p><p style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Let me summarize the premise 1 and 2 of the Kalam Cosmological Argument.</span></p><ul><li style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Everything that begins to exist has a cause</span></li><li><div style="color:inherit;text-align:left;"><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">The universe began to exist</span></div><div style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><br></span></div></li></ul><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Therefore, the universe has a cause for its existence.&nbsp;</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;color:inherit;">Now, let's discuss the nature of the cause. Let me make 2 more arguments.<br></span><b><span style="font-size:18px;"><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">1. A finite system (Universe) cannot cause itself into existence.</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">You don't see objects and things around you cause themselves into existence. Both living and nonliving things don't cause their own existence. The universe is made up of only living and nonliving things. Therefore, it's reasonable to argue that the universe could not have caused itself into existence.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">2. No properties (Space &amp; time) of a system (Universe) can cause the system to come into existence.</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The CPU, RAM and ROM don't cause the computer to come into existence. Our hands and legs don't cause us to come into existence. The properties of both living and nonliving things don't cause the living and nonliving things to come into existence. Because the universe is made up of living and nonliving things, it's logical to argue that no properties of the universe could not have caused itself into existence.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Therefore, it follows that the universe had an external cause.</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">Since the universe is finite in space and time, and since it had an external cause, it's reasonable and justified to posit a single uncaused cause of the universe, Infinite in space and time.<br><br></span></i></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;<b><span style="font-size:28px;">2. </span></b><span style="text-decoration-line:underline;"><b><span style="font-size:28px;">Freewill</span></b>&nbsp;</span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">In this section of my piece, I purport to do the following</span></p><ul style="color:inherit;"><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Explain why the debate about freewill is important</span></li><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Articulate why it's inconsistent with science</span></li><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">To make an argument that freewill exists (Although it's inconsistent with science)</span></li><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Argue that we derive freewill from a metaphysical source<br><br></span></li></ul><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Any discussion about freewill must begin with the definition of the term. While philosophers have debated its actual definition, I go with a simple and a relatable one. Freewill, in my view, is the capacity that enables conscious beings to make choices. It's the idea that we are presented with different choices, and that we can <i>will</i> to pursue any of the choices. Think about walking to the pantry to grab a cup of coffee. If you had freewill, it would imply that you <i>willed</i> to get up from your seat and walk to the pantry to drink the coffee. With the term freewill, I obviously don't intend to mean we are unconstrained in every way. We are certainly constrained by various environmental variables. But that's not how I am construing the term. For me, freewill is about having the capacity to make a choice, regardless of whether that choice enables one to achieve a desired outcome.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">A) Why the debate about freewill is important</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The idea that humans have freewill is essential to how the world functions. Our legal, political, and social systems are predicated on the idea that we have freewill. I mean, why send someone to prison, if they were already determined to commit a crime? &quot;But hey, why is there a debate about freewill, isn't it obvious that we have one?&quot; If you have this question, read on. The idea that we possess freewill might seem rudimentary to readers, but turns out that it's not.<i>The idea of freewill is inconsistent with science.</i></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">B) Why the idea of Freewill is inconsistent with science.&nbsp;</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Whenever I come across a science worshiper, I pose the question of whether they believe in freewill. Most - in my experience - have said yes, and have been perplexed completely at my retort that their view was untenable. Freewill does not make sense from a scientific standpoint. Let me explain,<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Science teaches us that we are </span><a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/science/chemistry/electronic-structure-of-atoms/history-of-atomic-structure/a/daltons-atomic-theory-version-2" title="matter" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">made up of matter</a><span style="color:inherit;"> at a fundamental level. Atom is a unit of matter that contains particles like quarks, leptons, electrons, etc. Now, these particles obey the physical laws. This means, all our actions, thoughts, decisions and everything are determined by the physical laws. And they have been determined - not now, but even before we were born, even before our species existed, even before any living things existed, even before our earth existed. In a nutshell, the totality of everything (I literally mean everything from the beginning to the end) is already determined at Big bang.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Robert Sapolsky, neuroscientist at Stanford, explains this idea in his new book </span><a href="https://www.amazon.in/Determined-Life-Without-Free-Will/dp/1847925537" title="Robert Sapolsky" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Determined: Life without freewill</a><span style="color:inherit;">. Here's his interview in which he discusses his </span><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/16/science/free-will-sapolsky.html" title="book" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">new book</a><span style="color:inherit;">. I have skimmed through his earlier book - Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst,</span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">where he goes into comprehensive detail as to why we don't have freewill. Not just Sapolsky, but many other scientists who I admire, like </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Greene" title="Brian Greene" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Brian Greene</a><span style="color:inherit;">, theoretical physicist and mathematician at Columbia university and </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker" title="Steven Pinker" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Steven Pinker</a><span style="color:inherit;">, professor of psychology at Harvard, maintain this position. Why do many scientists think this way?<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Because since matter came into existence after the big bang, it's been governed by the laws of physics - At the macroscopic level, it's been governed by cause and effect or what we call the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality" title="Causality" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">principle of causality</a><span style="color:inherit;"> and at the microscopic level, by </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_indeterminacy#:%7E:text=Quantum%20indeterminacy%20is%20often%20understood%2Cof%20experiments%20repeated%20many%20times." title="Quantum Indeterminacy" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">quantum indeterminacy</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_indeterminacy#:%7E:text=Quantum%20indeterminacy%20is%20often%20understood%2Cof%20experiments%20repeated%20many%20times." style="color:inherit;">.</a>&nbsp;<span style="color:inherit;">So based on this view, every action, every thought, every decision that you take is contingent on an earlier cause, which itself is contingent on the earlier one - all the way till the Big bang.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">However, freewill - by definition - requires you to break the causal chain.</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">You <i>cannot freely will to do something</i>, if your actions are contingent on earlier causes. Hence freewill does not exist from a scientific point of view.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">C) Argument for why freewill exists<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The notion that we are a bag of particles obeying the laws of physics (by which we are determined or indeterminate) comes from the idea that we are made up only of matter. It also stems from a pompous view that anything that can't be understood or explained within a scientific context must be discarded or must be false. Let me first explain why science is not the only framework to make meaning about reality.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">There are different ways to make meaning of the reality we experience.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">1. Empirically: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Observing, hypothesizing, experimenting and testing and generalizing. The scientific enterprise is built around this form.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">2. Deductively (Via logic):&nbsp;</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Premise 1: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Josephs is a boy's school</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Premise 2: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Person X studies in Josephs</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Conclusion: </span></b><span style="font-size:18px;">Therefore, it logically follows that Person X is a boy!<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;font-size:13px;"><b style="color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">3. Mathematically:</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">&nbsp; Mathematical statements like 1+1= 2 are </span><a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00174780#:%7E:text=On%20the%20other%20hand%2C%20mathematical%2Cin%20the%20empirical%20world%20(as" title="mathematical truths" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">logically necessary truths</a><span style="color:inherit;"> that are not contingent on the empirical world. In other words, mathematical statements like 1+1=2 don't depend on our existence or physical objects to be true.They would be true whether we existed or not, within the formal framework (here integer arithmetic) that they are part of.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">4. Only intuitively (via first person experience):</span></b><span style="font-size:18px;"> All your conscious experiences like - pleasure, pain, joy etc can only be learnt via experience. One can't conduct experiments to demonstrate, or mathematically offer proofs, or logically deduce the sweetness of sugar. Conscious experiences can only be known intuitively!<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">So, the point is - The scientific framework is not the only framework with which to understand reality. When you can't scientifically understand something that you deeply experience everyday, it's not prudent to dismiss it as a mere illusion, without entertaining the possibility that science may not be the right framework to understand that experience. It's unintelligent to assume science can explain everything or plainly discard other things as untrue, false and illusory when you can't explain it via science.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Now, coming to freewill. I don't think freewill is a consequence of physical processes (matter). <i>I have reasons to believe that freewill exists, and it flows from the idea that we have a metaphysical Self, and this Self is imbued with freewill</i>. Here's my argument for the self and how it gives us freewill.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Life and death - Argument 1 for Self<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Let's assume for a moment that we are made up only of matter. Then technically, it must be possible to bring someone back to life. Why have we not managed to bring anyone back to life with all the advancements we have made in science? We refer to someone as a being, and a second after their death, we call them dead. What changed in that split-second. I am sure there was no considerable change in matter - In the sense, the heart may have stopped beating, oxygen supply to the brain might have got cut off, cells might starve with lack of oxygen, but the heart, brain and other matter particles are right there. They haven't perished, yet something seems to have left the body. It's become so fancy to compare humans and machines. If life and death are solely a consequence of physical processes, then we must ideally be able to fix humans and bring them back to life, much like how we fix a machine and make it work.&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Reflection - Argument 2 for Self<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Reflection is a capacity to contemplate about oneself - about one's actions, desires, motivations. It's the aboutness. I can think about my vacation. I can think about my piano performance. In other words, it's not merely standard awareness of the world, but an acute self-awareness of your situation in the world- the capacity to reflect on one's own mental states and make judgements. For instance, assume you are with your group of friends, and they crack a joke on you that makes you angry. You have the capacity to reflect on the situation and act in a particular way (moving away from that place). We are aware of our mere existence unrelated to any other objects. Any physical object or matter in general, does not have intentions. If you don't agree, try to strike a conversation with your study table.&nbsp;<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Conscious experience - Argument 3 for Self</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">I have discussed this argument in detail under Consciousness.&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">Why can't the Self be an emergent property of matter, much like how water is an emergent property of H20? because, if it were an emergent property of matter, we must be able to measure it. If you call the idea of Self an illusion, then you need to contest my arguments and provide a reasonable explanation.<br><br></span></i></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Believing in a Self seems more reasonable to me than believing that we are made up only of matter. To deny Self - in my opinion - is to deny one's existence and one's everyday experience of life. Since the Self is immaterial, it's not necessarily bound by physical laws, and because freewill is a property of self, it follows by necessity that freewill is not bound by physical laws, and our everyday experience stands as a testament.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">However, the Self is characterized by its finitude and contingency, because<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">1. The Self does not contain within itself the ingredients needed to sustain all lives.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">2. The Self is also limited to a particular conscious being, so it cannot be the reason for freewill of all conscious beings.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">3. The Self is not a necessary thing. The world would exist without conscious selves with only non-living things.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Therefore it's reasonable to posit that the contingent Self must be contained within a metaphysically necessary, unbounded Self.</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Let me summarize.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">1. I explained why science is not necessarily the only way to understand reality.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">2. I made a couple of arguments for a metaphysical Self.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">3. With those arguments, I made a case for why the Self is metaphysical (Can't be grounded in physical processes)</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">4. I made a case that freewill logically follows from the Self because the idea of freewill is also metaphysical.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">5. I explained why the Self is finite and contingent and therefore concluded that as a matter of metaphysical necessity, it's reasonable to argue that the Self be contained in an unbounded Self.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-size:26px;">3. </span><span style="font-size:26px;text-decoration-line:underline;">Consciousness </span><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">In this section, I intend to do the following<br><br></span></p><div style="color:inherit;"><p style="text-align:left;margin-bottom:8pt;"><span style="font-size:18px;">1. Define the idea of consciousness as construed largely in the west</span></p><p style="text-align:left;margin-bottom:8pt;"><span style="font-size:18px;">2. Explain why is there a debate about consciousness</span></p><p style="text-align:left;margin-bottom:8pt;"><span style="font-size:18px;">3. Make an argument that it can't be understood from a scientific perspective.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;margin-bottom:8pt;"><span style="font-size:18px;">4. A metaphysical case for consciousness</span></p></div><div style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:inherit;font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></div><div style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><div><span><span style="color:inherit;">Consciousness is a much debated subject in Philosophy of mind. Like freewill, consciousness is a loaded word with multiple interpretations. For our purposes, I’d like to define </span><i style="color:inherit;">consciousness as an internal experience we have of the world. </i><span style="color:inherit;">Everything that happens to us happens in our consciousness. We experience the beauty of painting, the sound of music, the fragrance of flowers, and the taste of food in our consciousness. In a nutshell, we experience the world around us in our consciousness - at least according to my understanding of how many philosophers in the west view consciousness. The nature of consciousness has been a subject of debate since the time of Plato and Aristotle. In recent centuries, the discussion has taken a new life in the writings of Descartes, particularly with his </span><i style="color:inherit;">Cogito ergo sum</i><span style="color:inherit;"> (I think therefore, I am) and mind-body problem a.k.a. </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_dualism#:%7E:text=to%20physical%20predicates.-%2CSubstance%20or%20Cartesian%20dualism%2Cand%20the%20body%20cannot%20think." title="Cartesian dualism" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Cartesian dualism</a><span style="color:inherit;"> - which is central to the debate about consciousness.<br><br></span></span></div></span></div><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">A) Why is there a debate about consciousness?</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">It matters because consciousness seems to elude our understanding of</span></p><ul style="color:inherit;"><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">What it is - Is it a substance? or is it non-physical?</span></li><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Its relationship with the physical world - how does it affect change in the physical world?</span></li><li style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Its centrality in human experience - why there is “something it is like” for a subject in a conscious experience? and why a subject experiences a specific type of experience.</span></li></ul><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Let me explain,</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The conventional scientific view is that we are made up only of matter. Matter possesses physical properties like shape, size, mass etc. These physical quantities can be observed, measured, tested and understood. But we also have experiences which appear to be non-physical in nature. Is it possible to measure the size of pain or test the mass of joy? These are qualitative experiences that don't have physical properties, and they are experienced only subjectively, and in consequence, seem to be happening in a world of their own. But the catch is, the phenomenal and the physical seem to interact. When I hit my leg against a wall (physical process), I can experience a conscious state of pain (phenomenal experience). Conversely, I can jump in joy, scream in fear, and shout in anger (phenomenal state causing physical activities). The physical process and phenomenal experience seem to be in different worlds, yet they interact, and that's what has given rise to the debate about the nature of consciousness.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;"><br>B) Science may not explain consciousness<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">You might've noticed that in the earlier paragraph, I mentioned that the physical and phenomenal worlds seem to interact. You might wonder &quot;What's the mystery here?&quot; phenomenal experiences are caused by physical events. After all, we have </span><a href="https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/pain#:%7E:text=What%20is%20pain%3F%2C%2C%20almost%20unnoticeable%2C%20or%20explosive." title="pain" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">neurophysiological explanations</a><span style="color:inherit;"> for experiences like pain. Scientists and many philosophers argue that phenomenal experiences like pain, joy, love etc are contents of consciousness, and with advancements in neuroscience, cognitive psychology and other branches of brain science, we must have a complete understanding of consciousness.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Those who make such arguments miss a crucial point. The explanation surrounding the nature of consciousness can be classified into 3 categories:&nbsp;<i>The what, The how and The why. Scientific explanations can only provide answers (hypothetically) to 'The what' and not the rest.<br><br></i></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">The what<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">There is definitely a correlation between physical states and phenomenal experiences. For instance, I feel really fresh after a half hour evening swim, and very relaxed after a few minutes of practice on the piano. Now, I am sure we can do studies to understand why this happens. For instance, someone can do a </span><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8211466/" title="detailed study" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">detailed study</a><span style="color:inherit;"> on how swimming can boost your mood, and offer explanations for every single neurochemical process that takes place during swimming and correlate that with the experience of feeling fresh.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">I am willing to even entertain the idea that in the remote future, we could have a super computer that could potentially map the physical properties of a person (atoms, electrons etc) in terms of neurochemistry and neurobiology and explain what the person is experiencing at the moment. (It's highly improbable, but within the bounds of logical possibility)<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">But that's not the point in the debate about consciousness. The points are 'The how' and 'The why'<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">The how</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><br>To put it simply, <i>how does matter with physical properties correlate with a subjective conscious experience</i>. This is what must be explained. Let me illustrate my point with an example.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Consider this thought experiment.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Assume you are walking towards your home after a hectic day at the office. As you are walking, you realize you have an important call to attend right now. Hurriedly, you pick up the phone, open the meeting app, and connect to the call. Since you are too focused on the call, you fail to notice a large wall in front of you, and you eventually ram into it with full force. You had a terrible crash and are in excruciating pain.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">At this moment, if someone journeyed through your brain and body, what would they witness? They might witness certain </span><a href="https://www.wtamu.edu/%7Ecbaird/sq/2013/09/11/are-there-nuclear-reactions-going-on-in-our-bodies/#:%7E:text=All%20of%20the%20physical%20processes%2Cbody%20does%20not%20use%20them." title="physical processes" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">physical processes</a><span style="color:inherit;"> like blood capturing oxygen, sugars being burned, DNA being constructed, neurons forming synaptic connections, and probably physical processes associated with pain. For the sake of argument, let's assume they witness the entire gamut of physical processes that are happening in your body at that moment.<br><br></span></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Now, would they be able to experience your pain? Logically, it seems no? They technically have more information about your internal state. Yet, only you have the subjective visceral experience of pain. Only you know what it means to 'feel' the pain. So, where does this experience (feeling of pain) come from? My example is a variation of Mary's room or the </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGYmiQkah4o" title="knowledge argument" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">Knowledge argument</a><span style="color:inherit;">.</span><br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="color:inherit;">Science can probably never explain this because matter contains only physical properties like mass, size, electric charge etc. But pain is a subjective feeling.</span><i style="color:inherit;"> How things translate from a physical level of mass, size, or charge, into a phenomenal level of conscious experience is something science can never explain</i><span style="color:inherit;">. Why are physical processes ever accompanied by experience? This is also referred to as the </span><span style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;"><a href="https://iep.utm.edu/hard-problem-of-conciousness/" title="hard problem of consciousness" target="_blank" rel="">hard problem</a><a href="https://iep.utm.edu/hard-problem-of-conciousness/" title="hard problem of consciousness" target="_blank" rel=""> of consciousness</a></span><span style="color:inherit;">. Even if scientists ascribe subjective </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia" title="Qualia" target="_blank" rel="" style="color:rgb(48, 4, 234);text-decoration-line:underline;">qualia</a><span style="color:inherit;"> to matter, you can't really test the qualia using scientific method. Hence, the attempt to explain consciousness in scientific terms might prove to be futile. As I mentioned earlier, scientists can, at best, explain what neuro-physical processes are correlatedwithcertain experiences. But this still begs the question of where that experience comes from?</span><b style="color:inherit;">&nbsp;<br><br></b></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">The why<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Why are physical processes accompanied by specific phenomenal experiences? Why should the feeling of pain feel that specific way as opposed to the feeling of joy? Earlier, I shared an article that explained the neurobiology of pain. Why should that particular neurobiology correlate with that specific experience of pain and why couldn't that correlate with happiness or another phenomenal experience? Again, I don't think this question belongs to the domain of science. Which again proves, science is not the right tool to understand consciousness.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Metaphysical case for consciousness<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">My argument will be similar to the one I propounded for freewill. I have good reasons to believe in an immaterial Self that is imbued with freewill, and consciousness. Let me summarize my reasons.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">1. Science can never explain consciousness, as I have explained in the earlier paragraphs.<br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">2. Unlike freewill, one can't call consciousness an illusion - one needs to be conscious even to say that.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">3. Nothing is more real than consciousness, yet it cannot be explained in terms of matter.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">4. If we go with the assumption that we are made up only of matter, then we must not have a subjective experience. Yet we have!</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">5. Therefore, consciousness has to be explained from a non-physicalist perspective.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">6. It's reasonable to argue that we have a Self - that imbues us with freewill and consciousness - as I have discussed in the earlier under freewill.<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><i><span style="font-size:18px;">However, this consciousness of the Self is finite and contingent, as it's the source of only an individual's phenomenal experience. It's contingent because the world would still function without this individual consciousness. Therefore, it's reasonable to posit that the finite, contingent consciousness must be contained within a metaphysically necessary, infinite consciousness!<br><br></span></i></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;margin-bottom:2px;"><b><span style="font-size:26px;text-decoration-line:underline;">Piecing the threads together</span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">I can't emphasize enough that my aim is not to challenge science, but Scientism - science worship that makes people scoff at other endeavors of inquiry. I genuinely believe that science, by no means, has had its final say on the biggest questions humanity has pondered since ages, and I have tried my best to articulate my reasons. In no way do I claim to have proven anything with 100% certainty through my arguments. My intention with this article is to sow the seeds of curiosity in the minds of people who practice scientism and encourage them to embark on a seeking journey of their own.&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">&nbsp;</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">My opinion is the following.</span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">The domain of freewill and consciousness is perhaps the domain of God. I posit this, because there is no objective way of explaining any of the 3 from a scientific standpoint, yet, in my opinion, our everyday subjective experience corroborates the existence of at least the first two, although science - by its very nature - disallows the possibility for the existence of freewill and it cannot explain consciousness (especially the how and the why). Does this situation render consciousness and freewill any less true? Is my experience of rose's redness an illusion? Was my idea of writing this post predetermined at the time of the Big bang?<br><br></span></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;font-size:13px;"><b><span style="font-size:18px;">OR<br><br></span></b></p><p style="text-align:left;color:inherit;"><span style="font-size:18px;">Is it the case that the scientific means of 'KNOWING' just does not map on to the subjective domain of human 'EXPERIENCE'? I am inclined to believe that it's the latter. If the subjective is exclusive from scientific means of knowing and if people are in relation to God in their subjective space, I don't see why there must be a compulsion to prove the existence of God. God could very well be a reality that perhaps cannot be empirically demonstrated, mathematically proven, or even logically deduced, but only subjectively experienced!<br></span></p></div></div></div>
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